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Lemon Balm Coaching
Healing After Burnout
Have you ever found yourself giving 100% to so many areas of your life that the math simply doesn't add up? That breaking point where your body and mind finally say "enough" isn't a failure—it's a desperate call to reconnect with yourself.
In this deeply resonant conversation, neuroscientist-turned-wellness coach Stephanie Pasniokas takes the mic as guest host to explore what happens when we push ourselves beyond sustainable limits. Together with Melissa, they unpack the biological reality of burnout, revealing how constant stress affects us at the cellular level, creating inflammation instead of energy.
Melissa vulnerably shares her journey of complete disconnection—physically unable to feel pain from a broken toe, emotionally unable to access her feelings, and mentally stuck in loops of anxiety and perfectionism. Her story illuminates how the very traits that help us survive challenging seasons (like compartmentalizing emotions during her husband's military deployments) can become liabilities when they prevent us from experiencing a full, connected life.
Perhaps most surprising is the revelation that many women find stillness and rest actively anxiety-producing. After living in constant motion, our nervous systems actually become comfortable with stress, making calm feel strange and threatening. This explains why you might find yourself filling every quiet moment with activity, even when you're exhausted.
Through Melissa's "Peace Restoration Method," we discover that reconnecting with ourselves doesn't happen all at once. It's a dance between mental and physical healing, between identifying harmful beliefs and creating new patterns. The key insight? We must feel to heal—and when we shut down difficult emotions, we inadvertently block joy and excitement too.
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Hey friend, you were in for something really special today. I've got a guest host taking the mic, and she's not just brilliant, she's someone that I now get to call a dear friend. Let me introduce you to Stephanie Pasniokas. She's a neuroscientist turned wellness coach and the founder of SJP Health and Wellness. We met just a few months ago at a retreat and it was instant connection. You know when you just click with someone. Well, that was us. Her wisdom, warmth and let's get real attitude is something I knew I wanted you to experience here on the Lemon Balm Coaching Podcast. So today she is leading the conversation, and it's a powerful one about self-love after a season of giving, and don't worry, I'm not going far. Stephanie will be back with me as a guest in the next episode and we'll dive even deeper into what she is doing. So go ahead, press play, grab your favorite cozy drink and let this conversation fill you up in all the best ways. I guarantee you are going to love it.
Speaker 2:Welcome to the Lemon Balm Coaching Podcast, your cozy corner of the world where we'll sip on life's lessons and squeeze the most out of every moment. I'm Melissa, your coach, cheerleader and maybe even a little bit like that mom, who always has a warm hug and the best advice waiting for you. If you're a woman over 40, feeling like life's left you a little lost, aimless or downright stuck, you're in the right place. This is where your joy, your freedom and your purpose come back into focus. Together, we'll laugh, learn and rediscover what makes you come alive. Because it's not too late, this is your time, so grab a cup of something warm, settle in and let's start creating the next most beautiful chapter of your life together.
Speaker 1:But what we're talking about today is self-love after a season of giving, and this is such an important aspect of our whole health. In fact, the way we approach our self-love and caring for ourselves really feeds into our mindset in every area of our lives. I'm really about the health of our entire body, and nutrition and mindset are just two components of a larger piece of the pie, and I'm so glad you guys are here. I'm so excited to introduce Melissa and Melissa, please just tell us a little bit about yourself and why you're here and what we're going to be talking about today.
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness, a little bit about myself. I don't know how much time do we have Tell us whatever you would like.
Speaker 1:We have about a half an hour and we're going to just hit whatever topics we can. The idea is, you know, talking about things. Like you know, we call today self-love, after a season of giving that was what just came out of our conversation breaking the cycle of overgiving and burnout, reconnecting with our own voice and needs, building self-love without guilt, shame or performance, and creating a peace-filled rhythm you can actually maintain. And I want to also reassure every woman who's watching. This doesn't mean that you're suddenly going into a season of selfishness, because that's going to just give you a knee-jerk reaction and say I don't want to be that person. Good, we're not supposed to be, but we want to give from our overflow and not from an empty cup, and that is what we're going to be talking about is how can you get to that place where we have so much extra to just give and serve with? So yeah, tell us a little bit about who you are, what you're doing and get us started today, and we'll just do a little back and forth interview style, Sure.
Speaker 2:So, since this is about loving ourselves after a season of giving, let me talk about the season of giving. So I'm in my mid fifties, I've got four grown children, I've got five grandchildren, and I grew up with this idea that everything has to be at a hundred percent. If I'm not giving it a hundred percent, there's something not worthy about me, like I'm not worth loving, I'm not even worth paying attention to, I'm not worthy of your connection if I'm not giving 100%. So here I am. First of all, I became a mom at 21. Not a mom of a baby, but a mom of a preteen. So here I am, a kid myself, looking back now right, I look back now at pictures and I'm like, what was I thinking? Well, I wasn't thinking, I was just following God's leading.
Speaker 2:And I became a mom of two preteens at the age of 21 and immediately added two more kids by the time I was 23. So here I am, 23 years old, four kids, my husband active duty military, deployed all the time, and I had this 100% idea. Well, if I'm going to be a mom, I'm going to be a mom at 100%. So I gave 100% to my family, which was great because that was my focus. My family was my focus. I wasn't doing things other than family. So it was easy to give 100% to my family. And then my kids were growing and we decided to homeschool. Awesome, I can give 100% to homeschooling, right? That's still family, right? Kind of. So here I am 100% wife, 100% homemaker, 100% homeschooler. It was still manageable for me.
Speaker 2:And then, when my youngest was a senior in high school, I went back into the workforce and I worked for my chiropractor Wonderful job. I have nothing but amazing things to say about working there. But I gave 100 percent. So now I'm at 400 percent, 100 percent mom, 100% homemaker, 100% homeschooler, 100% worker. Oh, I was also a Boy Scout master 100% Boy Scout master, 100%, no matter where I was. And I burned out. I burned all the candles at all the ends. I had nothing left to give and ended up having an emotional and a physical breakdown. I started having crippling anxiety, depression. My digestion shut down, I couldn't process food, like everything was giving up. My whole being, mind, body and spirit was giving up. That's the season of giving.
Speaker 1:I came out of yeah, you know what my story and I, you know, I know we're going to get to some really juicy places, so I just want to share it, like my story is. It's so similar, so so very similar, and I think that it's so important for us to realize that we think that that season of giving that, that putting ourselves out there, that it's all an emotional burden, even because you know, like, well, I'm eating and I'm doing this and I'm doing that, maybe you're even gaining weight, like I did, and you're like, well, I'm not starving myself, but why am I so sick? And you know? But the thing is, is all of this high achieving whether you're high achieve or not, when you're just giving that much, when you're going that hard constantly and you're never I know you're going to get to this when you're never restoring your body?
Speaker 1:It isn't just something that's in your head, it's not just a tiredness, it's not just my brain is too full, because all the things I'm doing, every one of those things is affecting your body in a on a cellular level, inside of yourselves, in your mitochondria, and those mitochondria are the canary in the coal mine. They are the thing that shouts out for help first in your body and they either produce energy or they produce inflammation and that is why everything shut down for you. It was your brain and your gut and your body and all of that is a major gut killer. And then we can't digest our food, then we can't bring in all of the nutrients that keep our bodies working appropriately, then we have dis-ease. So just want to point out from the science side of it everybody this is all connected. We can't have one or the other. It isn't just you're sacrificing your own personal comfort.
Speaker 2:And everything Stephanie is saying is absolutely true. My body was completely inflamed and it's because of that whole mind, body, spirit disconnect. Everything was suffering, everything about me was suffering and I had no idea what to do. I literally was doing everything everybody tells you to do. I was meditating, I was exercising, I was eating. I was eating healthy. Right, healthy Wasn't healthy for me, but I was eating healthy, trying to rest. I mean everything, everything going to the doctor, getting tests, nothing was working. Everything was shutting down. It was pretty miserable, I'll just say that. But then, in 2019, something absolutely magical happened. My husband had an opportunity to work overseas and I said when do we leave?
Speaker 2:So, all of our kids were grown. They didn't need us. Kids always need you, but they didn't need us. I quit my job and we moved overseas. And then COVID hit and we were, you know, the whole Island was shut down, couldn't go anywhere, couldn't do anything, and I was like, okay, well, let's figure some stuff out. And that is where I started my healing journey.
Speaker 2:And I do want to mention one of the things that was a big clue for me that I was completely disconnected mind, body and spirit was I didn't feel things. And I'm not just talking emotions, right, I physically didn't feel things. I ran into a wall and broke my toe and said, huh, I just broke my toe and it took six months for my toe to heal. Why? Because there was no pain associated with it, so my brain didn't know to send white blood cells to that area for healing. So, completely disconnected mind, body and spirit, so much so that there was no pain sensation. I definitely feel things now because I'm reconnected mind, body and spirit working together. All three parts have to work together body and spirit working together, all three parts have to work together All three parts.
Speaker 1:I want to ask anybody is there any part of you? You may not feel fully disconnected the way you know Melissa's describing for herself. She was like really far, and but if you feel it all sometimes, you know and it's not a shameful thing to even admit it If you sometimes feel, if you feel like there's a part of you that's just disconnected, know that you're not alone. Let us know that that's the case, and you know, I know that I felt that way when in 2014 and 2013 was a lot of wine and a lot of reading and hiding away from my family, I didn't have anything left over after giving all the percents to everything else. Got my kids into bed and I was like, yeah, mom is doing whatever. Yeah, that was mine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, mommy is, mom is doing whatever. Yeah, that was mine. I do want to acknowledge, though, that my ability to disconnect, that disconnect served me well for a very long time. I it was a real, it was a strength to be able to compartmentalize and disconnect until it wasn't yeah, when my husband was deployed in combat zones. To be able to compartmentalize and disconnect made it possible for me to raise my kids when he wasn't To function as the caregiver Exactly when he lived in a different state because of his job, like he does right now.
Speaker 2:Being able to disconnect made it possible for me to survive raising kids, caring for kids, teenagers, raising teenagers alone, you know, until it didn't, until it didn't serve me anymore, and then it was. It was like a perfect storm of symptoms. Just everything at one time came down on me and left me in that place of anxiety and depression and disconnect.
Speaker 1:When we're in that place, where we're in survival mode, oftentimes it's a big, huge red flag for our bodies Like, hey, where in your life can you slow down? Where in your life can you take space? Where are you trying to overdo? Where might we need to ask for help? And I think that's another thing women are so not good at, we are so not good at asking for help, and it's okay to ask for help, whether it's you know anybody listening. So so how did you what? What was that? So we're we know where you are. You were at the rock bottom. How did you break that cycle of overgiving and burnout and reconnect with your own voice?
Speaker 2:Honestly, the very first thing I did I was still working at my chiropractor and I I reached out to a therapist. I was like I don't know what else to do. My medical doctor's not helping me. They put me on antidepressants and I really didn't need them because working with the therapist, I learned something really, really critical about myself. I was taking on my husband's problems and making them my own, and that doesn't work. His problems are his problems, my problems are my problems.
Speaker 1:No, and in fact, as I would say, anybody who's worked with me or done some of my programs. What do I call that? It's your sphere of control that is outside of your sphere of control. And the more we take on things that are outside of our sphere of control, the more anxiety. And we can't, because our brain, we know we can't do anything about it. So now we're just worrying. It's like if I decided to suddenly like there are things happening in the world that I have zero control over and if I let them take over, they're so overwhelming that my brain is going to have a panic attack. Yeah, and it's going to affect everything else, right, it's just going to compound everything. So you learned that you were taking on something outside of your sphere of control. It was about somebody you've heard about, but you couldn't do anything about it Exactly.
Speaker 2:So. That was the first thing, right, realizing that this wasn't a mental issue. Right, it was me trying to take control of his problems and make them my own. Again, I was a hundred percent woman. Right, it was me trying to take control of his problems and make them my own. Again, I was 100% woman, right. But after realizing that that's what was going on, I was like, well, I don't need to be on antidepressants, this isn't traditional mental depression. I wasn't lacking serotonin or anything. It was me trying to be 100% in my marriage for him, like 100% him and 100% me. Our minds can't handle that.
Speaker 1:Just like what does that put you up to? Like 600, 700, 800%? Oh my gosh, yes, right, so like so that was the first thing.
Speaker 2:But then the second thing is when we were, when we moved overseas and COVID hit and we're stuck at home, right, we couldn't do anything. I was like well, people have called me their life coach pretty much my whole life. People come to me and get advice it's not advice that I do as a life coach, but that's kind of how we labeled it and I said well, I think I'm going to bite the bullet and I'm going to go get my certification for life coaching. And one of the things about coaching which I'm sure you know, stephanie, is when you go to get your certification, you don't just learn things, you actually have to experience them. And through the certification process, I reemerged. I reemerged, I reconnected with who I was designed to be and like reconnected mind, body and spirit Looking in the mirror and going oh, there you are.
Speaker 2:Oh, there you are, peter. Yes, exactly. If anybody knows what movie I'm quoting props, okay, but yeah, just really just reconnecting with who I was designed to be from the very beginning, right? I believe that the moment you're conceived there's a design and then life happens, right? Life happens and we think we're who we're supposed to be. I become a certain thing because I have to be that thing and I leave behind who I was designed to be and reconnect with who I was designed to be, remembering I'm this fun, exciting, kind of crazy person and enjoying it, actually enjoying my life again. What is that Like? For the longest time it was just do, do, do, go, go go, b B, b.
Speaker 1:How many people listening have done the do, do, do, go, go, go, b, b, b. Yeah, all right, how many have done that? And I want to just say, like, you can still serve and be a fantastic mother, be an amazing employee, be a wonderful friend, be a part of a gorgeous, beautiful community and be whole and healed um, healed and calm in your nervous system. It is possible. I know that I I didn't believe it. At one point in time.
Speaker 1:I thought that if I wasn't worried, things weren't going to get done. I didn't trust myself to do what needed to be done unless I was angsting and worried and type a personality all over it, if you want to call that, you know whatever. But and it got to the point where, when things finally changed in my life and things slow down and I couldn't think of anything that was wrong and it almost seemed too good to be true, I was sitting on a beach and it was still, and it was my perfect, perfect place and, um, yeah, I was anxious, couldn't think of a thing about it. I'd always been able to point to a reason. I was anxious before and at that moment I said, oh my gosh, I'm anxious and I shouldn't be Something's wrong with me. I must have a disorder. I must have generalized anxiety disorder, because I don't even I. But this is the thing my brain didn't know how to not be anxious. I had to learn that. I had to learn it, and it's learnable, it's a skill.
Speaker 2:I was just working with.
Speaker 1:I was just working with a client today on this because her nervous system exactly what you're talking about Her nervous system is used to being anxious, and now that's the safe thing, it's the known thing that the brain is doing Exactly Calm feels like calm feels weird and it's scary, and it's scary, yeah. So so if you felt that, if you have felt that every time you sit down to do nothing in stillness, that you get anxious, and now you have to go and do something, to the point where it's way past your bedtime, and now you're falling into bed, and now you're not getting the sleep that your body needs, because you had to do things, because you couldn't sit in quiet.
Speaker 2:Yes, I was just going to say, if silence is a problem, there's a problem because we should be able to sit in silence and enjoy our thoughts.
Speaker 1:And how do we hear that still small voice.
Speaker 2:If we can't sit in the silence.
Speaker 1:Yes, we've. We've identified the problem. There's a way out of it. It is possible. How do you recognize you're in it? But I never, ever, ever want to leave anybody feeling in that space Like, okay, but this is me, and now I'm really like sad and scared. How do we build that self-love without guilt, shame, um, or the need to perform? Uh, you know the place that we're most, that we keep falling into a pattern on, that's the place where we need the help, and it's okay to ask for help and, um, and the thing is, is the thing that threatens our brain is when we're trying to just change it all at once. And you know what we can learn to have peace and stillness, and it also can be the baby steps, just like I talk about with getting our wellness together. It's the same thing. It's not going to be scary and you're going to come out the other side of it going wow. So tell us a little bit about how someone does that.
Speaker 2:Sure. So the method that I've come up with and it's actually the one that I've walked through myself is it's just called the peace restoration method, because the women that I work with are on the verge of a mental or physical breakdown, just like I was, and they cannot keep going like that anymore. I had a client who checked herself into the hospital on her birthday one year because she couldn't keep going anymore, and the whole time she was in the hospital. She was in the hospital for three days on the psych ward, on a on a hold, and, um, she was already on a physical health journey. She had changed the way that she was eating. She was eating whole foods, natural foods. She had really done a lot of work on her physical body and, uh, the foods that they were giving her were full of chemicals and just terrible. All they wanted to do was put her on medications. She didn't want to be on any more medication and she left the hospital feeling exactly like she did when she went in and that's when she reached out to me.
Speaker 2:So that's who I work with People who are on that. They're on the verge. I mean we just can't keep going like that anymore. But I help them reconnect with who they were designed to be so that they can have that peace, that excitement about life again, that purpose that's theirs, Not just the purpose to serve, but their purpose, their purpose in life. And the way I do that is just. There's six pillars to the peace restoration method and it's different for everyone. Yes, we touch on all of the pillars, but I work one-on-one with women because it's such a personal experience that it's got to be one-on-one. So that's what I do with people I work one-on-one with them in a very intimate setting and help them reconnect with who they were designed to be so that they can have that purpose and joy and excitement about life again.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I want to say you know, we were talking about this before the call, before our live tonight and before we came on with everybody is that sometimes, sometimes it's the health that's keeping your mind from being able to get into a healthy place, and sometimes it's the mind that's keeping your health from being able to get into a healthy place, and sometimes you have to bounce back and forth and make some progress here and then some progress here and progress here and progress there. Sometimes it's one and then the other, or or you know, you know it's, but you know what you can't, you can't do it wrong, and you know. But if you find yourself trying to make really great changes in your life and you just keep hitting up against a pattern, this is, I would you say, most of this is sort of that signal that, ah, I am, I am, I am, I am doing so much I'm doing, I'm a doer, doer, doer, doer, doer. I'm not sure how to ditch, or to delegate, or defer, or to balance, or to. You know, I, I feel like everything has to be me. You know, I feel like everything has to be me and I don't feel like I know even who I am anymore. I don't know how to dream anymore. You know, and there's a continuum. It's not all or nothing, it's a continuum.
Speaker 1:You know, that might be that that may be an opportunity for you to say you know what. Let me, let me try to just tackle this from another perspective for a little while so that I can get to a place for you when you know I know that you had said your gut shut down, your health, so your physical health shut down, but you had to change something, you had to work on something before you were able to address that. I mean, how did that work? That work for you? Was it? Was it one step forward here, one step forward there? Was it one thing where you know? How did that look like for you? What do you invite other people, the people who are here, into? How do they know? You know and and and? Can they just have a conversation with you just to find out?
Speaker 2:like you know, so for me it was really working on the mental part. One of my clients calls it mental gymnastics. There was a lot of mental gymnastics going on and figuring out where in the world did this belief begin? Where did this belief begin that I have about myself that is preventing me from being me, begin that I have about myself that is preventing me from being me. So for me it was working so much on the mental part before I could address the physical part. And I'm still addressing the physical part. That's going to go on for the rest of my life, and so is the mental stuff right. But I had to do the mental work first.
Speaker 1:That was what I had to do Because that was the big blocker, that was the log for you. That was oh my gosh we identified that log jam and um, you know, that is just. That is so important to understand, because you just said I had to know who I am. If you don't know who you are, if you can't find you, if you don't even know what you want, how can you do good things for yourself, how can you practice self-love if you don't know who you?
Speaker 2:are, and if I don't know who I am right and I can't, how do I even serve other people? How do I serve authentically if I don't even know who I am authentically?
Speaker 1:Right? Do you mean sort of like serving others as a checklist item versus serving authentically with your heart and your feelings and your emotions?
Speaker 2:right, correct, yes, cause I could. I can, yeah, sure, I can go out and serve, but that's going to leave me depleted, that's going to leave me exhausted. But if I'm serving, aligned from my heart, that's going to give me energy, because it's, it's part of who I am and I have to know that. I have to know who I am.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I mean I, I would. I hope that you know again, there's this whole continuum, that that if you can think of anybody listening, if you can think of a time where, when you're in that place of service and you're receiving and giving and you're and you're feeling, you know, remembering what that feels like. You know, sometimes we allow that to happen when we're completely out of context of our everyday life. Right, you might go to a retreat, you might go on a trip, you might, and you might find it in those places, but when you come back home and you're surrounded by your context, it all goes away and you're like what the heck happened? I thought I was, I thought things, you know. But that's not a bad thing, because now you kind of have a connection, you at least know and have experienced the goal, right, and I think you know, melissa, what I believe that you can do through your peace restoration method is you can help people create the path to that peace, that place you know, and yeah.
Speaker 2:And I and I know not everybody can move to a tropical island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean to find themselves.
Speaker 1:I almost commented that in the middle. I was like yeah, and please tell me that your method doesn't require me to go to Guam.
Speaker 2:I really, I really do know that not everybody has that, that opportunity and, honestly, covid was the opportunity for me. Opportunity for me. Covid was not a bad thing. That was the space that allowed me to heal. No-transcript, we moved all the time as kids. I never missed anywhere that we lived. We moved all the time when my husband was in the military. I never missed anyone or any place. But I miss Guam because that is where my healing journey began and I reconnected with being able to feel emotions, being able to feel my body again, and that's where it all started and I actually miss, I long to go back and I've never had that before. So this is healing. This is what healing looks like, right, that longing, that desire, that deep soul desire for things that we just want now, that we never knew we even wanted before.
Speaker 1:Healing happens when we're not in a stressed state. Healing doesn't happen under stress. From a physiological standpoint, in the sympathetic nervous system, we don't heal, we survive, we don't heal. We heal in the parasympathetic. We heal when oxytocin is in charge cortisol. Where does oxytocin come from? From that connection, from that community, from a feeling of safety. So if you are constantly, constantly feeling stressed, you're taking your body out of that healing mode. And there's a lot of ways that we stress. We don't just stress emotionally. We don't just stress emotionally, we don't just stress from an occupational perspective, but we can stress physically, we can overextend ourselves, we can get an illness. There's so many things.
Speaker 2:I can eat foods that are not good for me and that stresses my body and that causes stress on the body that is a physical stress.
Speaker 1:There are toxins in the environment that can cause physical stress on your body and I mean we can't walk around like the boy on the bubble protecting ourselves from everything. But there are things that we can do that allow our bodies to get into that healing state and there are ways we can nourish our body and move our body in healing ways that foster all of that healing so that we heal faster than we get harmed. Just start seeing what is percolating in your brain, what is coming up for you, and don't be afraid to feel it Feeling's good.
Speaker 2:We have to feel to be able to heal. Going back to my broken toe thing six months six months because there was no feeling. That's a physical example of we have to feel to heal. But we also have to feel our emotions. Our emotions were designed to help us experience life and if we shut them off, you don't just get to choose which emotions you want to feel. I don't get to say I don't want anger and shame and frustration, I only want joy and excitement. If I shut one off, I shut them all off.
Speaker 1:And guess what? Our feelings are data. I'm sorry, I'm always going to be the scientist. I know it's a feeling moment and I have lots and lots of feels. But emotions are data. They are part of we need them. Yes.
Speaker 2:We need them yes, we absolutely do to experience this life. Thanks so much for spending a little time with me today on the Lemon Balm Coaching Podcast. I hope you're walking away with something that sparks joy, hope or a fresh perspective for your journey. If you loved today's episode, let's keep the conversation going. You can find more inspiration, coaching tips and resources over at my website, lemonbalmcoachingcom. Don't forget to follow me on social media for encouragement and updates, and you'll find me on Instagram and Facebook at Lemon Balm Coaching. And hey, if you're looking for a supportive, uplifting community of amazing women just like you, come join us in the Reignite your Flame Facebook group. It's a safe, welcoming space where we share, grow and cheer each other on, and you can find the link on my website or just search for Reignite your Flame on Facebook. Remember, honey, just be yourself. The world needs what only you have to offer. Take care, and I'll see you in the next episode.